Anyway... Before this whole Shakespeare Masters thing, I hadn't read a Shakespeare History. This is a lie, because I had in fact read Richard III, but I consider that more of a Tragedy than a History, possibly because I studied Richard III in actual history, and... Shakespeare is full of shit. I mean, I remember my History teacher basically saying that in not so many words, so I consider Richard III preeeetty much fiction.
However! (Watch out, there's some learning coming!) It seems that basically all of the histories are like this- they're essentially a specific version of history that was popular in Elizabethan times, with some added details that serve the narrative well, and some theatrical flourishes that are just for the lucky viewers. Shakespeare essentially wrote two sets (or tetralogies, if you want to be all smart about it) of history plays, where he already mixed up history: Henry VI Parts One, Two and Three and Richard III were written first although historically later, and Richard II, Henry IV Parts One and Two, and Henry V were written later. We studied the second tetralogy, mainly, I think, because why would we study the one I had actually read a play from? That would just be crazy! (Seriously, for the first 6 weeks, we studied 7 plays and I'd read 1. DIFFICULT TIMES)
But anyway, here's some stuff I think about those plays. I still don't exactly love the Histories, but I'm more intrigued by them and think some of the issues surrounding them are interesting. But the plays themselves? Well...
Richard II
I actually really liked Richard II, and if you like reading Shakespeare just for the pretty pretty sounds his words make in your head (Um... that's not me? I totally have more reasons for studying him?) then you'll pretty much love this because it's written entirely in verse. I feel like that sounds like it sucks, but actually it's just like... *sigh* so pretty. I might just be making shit up here, but I feel like this has an important function, in that Richard II is the last 'rightful' king in this tetralogy, so it's almost like he gets all the kingly language before everything turns to shit. That's a technical term, btdubs. The verseyness also makes it all very DRAMATIC (Richard II is a pretty dramatic king. And by dramatic, I mean he seems kind of gay. He probably was at least bi because kings. They can do what they want) which is appropriate because it's all about rebellion and deposing and Bolingbroke (later Henry IV) being kind of an asshole after Richard II was kind of an asshole to him.
Basically, I really liked it, and I now idealise it in my brain because the Henrys... Well, you'll see.
Henry IV, Part One
There's this soliloquy at the end of Act 1 Scene 2 given by the future Henry V that reminded me why I love Shakespeare, why I was spending my Saturday trying to read both parts of Henry IV (I know, right?) and why I continue living. It's pretty awesome and I kind of cheered at it whilst reading so there's that. As for the rest of Henry IV, Part One... Well. It's weird because if I consider it alongside second part, I love this one and haaaate that one, but even just this one... well, it's sort of all downhill after 1.2.
Ok, that's mean. It's not that bad! There's another rebellion trying to go down, Henry V (who is really the star of all three of the last plays in the tetralogy) is being all scoundrelly and, at least when he's Tom Hiddleston, very attractive, and there's a whole battle at the end and blah blah blah drama. Here's the thing though. I hate Falstaff. I fucking hate him so much. I don't find him even the tiniest bit funny, I'm weirdly annoyed with him for being a bad influence on little Henry V, even though Henry V reaaaally has the upper hand in that relationship and oh my GOD I just want him to shut up. I just... he's not a nice guy, and it kind of upsets me that people would think 'oh he's so funny LOL!' when actually he's just this massive asshole who should never have nice things happen to him. I just cannot with him.
But still. Henry IV, Part One, is fine.
Henry IV, Part Two
I hate Henry IV, Part Two. There, I said it. It doesn't help that I really did read it straight after part one (well, part of it... I finished it on the Sunday) when I'd pretty much had my fill of Shakespeare for that one weekend and oh wow, the cruelty of having to read two plays in one week. Just, no. However. Henry IV, Part Two really does have its own issues that I can't deal with at all. There is SO MUCH Falstaff, SO MANY PUNS (of course Falstaff relies on puns for his comedy. Of course he does. Asshole) and there's less Henry IV to hang out with Falstaff and actually make his scenes relevant? This is all just me and my petty hatred, and I'm sure there are people who think Falstaff is the tits, but for me... Just no.
It's also just... generally crapper than part one? Like, there's kind of a rebellion but it doesn't really happen, it's not as funny, it's just... It's kind of like the Grease 2 of Shakespeare, if you know what I mean. It sucks, is what I'm saying. It does get better towards the end, so there's that, and I want to like it more, but I just... don't. So there.
Henry V
I read Henry V (obviously). I half watched The Hollow Crown version whilst making notes for my essay. I still can't really tell you much about Henry V. I... There are speeches? And a fight? I mean, I could probably tell you more if I had actually made it to the seminar about it, but unfortunately, traffic, traffic, blah blah blah what can I say, I missed it. I thought I was going to like Henry V because of how much I liked the character in Henry IV, but it turns out that things change when you're king and you start talking about how you're going to rape all the women and put the babies' heads on pikes. And then there's fighting and killing and blah blah blah. I mean, it was still better than Henry IV, Part Two, but that's not really saying, well, anything. Aaaand so the histories might not be for me.
And finally, a note on women (of course). There are incredibly few women in these plays, and the ones that are there don't always speak English. As a result, women don't really have a voice in these plays, which seems about right because women don't really have a voice in history, I guess. It's interesting that, under a female monarch, Shakespeare decided not to include even a few more women (Henry V's mother, for example, is never seen... Although have I looked up if she would still have been alive? I have not.) It can be kind of frustrating to read, at least for me, because I always want to know 'what are the women doing?' and the answer in these plays is basically nothing, OR we don't even know... But they're not a part of the action! Goddammit.
Anyway. I'm glad I've now read some histories and I'm glad that part of the course is over. Bring on those tragedies and comedies, oh yeahhhhhh.
I think I've said this before, but I HATE Richard II. I think this is mostly because I had to study it at school and for some reason I had decided that I hated Shakespeare, and I was also like ewww history, even though as you said it's not really historical. Still, even seeing that you like it isn't really convincing me to give it another try, hehe. Maybe if for some reason I feel compelled to read all of the Shakespeare at some point (unlikely, but you never know). Or maybe if I could go and see a good production of it.
ReplyDeleteAnd I completely get the but what are the women doing?! thing. I totally had that when reading a book (Foundation by Asimov) recently, it definitely stops me from enjoying stuff as much as I would otherwise. I think this is made worse in historical things as I also much prefer to read about what the normal people are doing rather than what an elite powerful few are doing, so as well as me wondering what the women are doing, I end up wondering what the lower class people think, hehe.
Hearing you talk about essays is reminding me of my uni days. That is definitely one thing that I do not miss, although having a university library near where I lived that was open 24 hours a day so I could go there in the middle of the night and essay write when I was unable to sleep because I was worried about my deadline was pretty great.
I'm still not the worlds biggest fan of the histories. I just... don't really care about them? Like, at all? I don't know, I'm just never going to really care about dudes going off and fighting battles and not really being witty and awesome and fun or sad and murdery and awesome.
DeleteWhat are the women doing though?! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH THEM, WILLIAM?! I mean, especially in this context I'm interested in what the women are doing because I am probably going to write about 89% of my essays/anything on women because that's what I doooo, so I'm probably not going to use the histories AT ALL in any assessed work so they feel a bit superfluous to me... But that's just me, of course.
Shakespeare history plays *should* be my jam. I mean, I love Shakespeare and I love the ridiculousness of English royals but I have never been able to get into these plays. I mean I don't mind watching them, I really liked Hollow Crown, but ugh, reading them always takes me a really loooooong time compared to his other plays. I think it's maybe the lack of dirty puns in such abundance, and the fact that there are so few ladies also doesn't help.
ReplyDeleteThey're just... They're not really very fun, but they're also not very tragic? It's a bit like shhhhh, can something fun happen now? Or something really sad? I mean, the kings die because that's what kings do, but you know they're going to so it's not that tragic, and you don't really care cause they weren't so nice anyway. Damn histories not making me feel stuff. Still. It's time for comedies now (As You Like It and Twelfth Night!) so my brain is happy. Or it would be if I didn't have to talk about the former in TWO DAYS. IN FRONT OF PEOPLE. Holy shit.
DeleteAre any of Shakespeare's histories really histories? I submit that they are NOT. Or they are but like, Hollywood style. (So...not.)
ReplyDeleteI don't haaaaaaate Falstaff like you do, but I don't get all the love he gets. I DO like Henry V, however. What I remember anyway. I haven't read any of the Henry's since high school so yeah, been awhile.
They're totally not real history. But WHAT IS REAL HISTORY? (Actual thing we have discussed. A LOT. Like, forever.)
DeleteFalstaff is not a good guy. Which is fine, because he's not supposed to be, but at the same time... STOP BEING AN ASSHOLE, DUDE! I know I didn't hate Henry V, but I didn't really anything to it because I guess I kind of skimmed it? Also there was an entire scene in french that my edition cruelly did not translate, which did not make me happy.
OH YEAH I remember that scene. And being happy I decided to take French which I have mostly forgotten BUT still retain enough to muddle through that scene. The to-be queen is trying to learn English, right? And then they make a vagina joke. #classyshakespeare
DeleteDefinitely a vagina joke! I feel like it's something about fingering but I'm not exactly sure what..? I LOVE WHEN SHAKESPEARE IS CLASSY LIKE HE IS ALL THE TIME (or never). I honestly think I love him the most when he is making sex jokes though.
DeleteThanks for the blast of learning :D I did a number of the histories in my Shakespeare module at uni and I remember vaguely enjoying them, but I can't for the life of me remember which ones we read. Just goes to show my feelings I guess! Thanks for sharing little bits from your studies - I'm really enjoying reading about it.
ReplyDeleteAwww, bless you. That is actually what I needed to read today when I'm feeling wayyyy dumber than everyone else in my class (I... may be the dumbest. Or at least the most out of practice. And the dumbest. I might not be but the fact that I have to give a presentation tomorrow is making me feel inadequate and I am sorry I am totally info-dumping right onto you!) But anyway- you are welcome and I will continue to share my learning and whatnot and I'll be sure to share my inevitable screaming fit about how much I hate Shakespeare. It'll come.
DeleteOoh, I remember really loving Henry V, though admittedly it's been a good couple of decades since I last read it. I did make my husband watch the Kenneth Branaugh version, however, maybe 12 years ago.
ReplyDeleteWomen are maddeningly absent in that book, and the French queen (princess?) at the end of Henery V was ridiculous. Totally ridiculous. BUt I will ALWAYS thrill when I hear the words of the St Crispin's Day speech.
The St Crispins Day speech is excellent. Hal's soliloquy in Henry IV is also just like YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS. Seriously. I may read Henry V again someday and actually take it in, but... It is not this day.
DeleteAbout all I know about Shakespeare's history plays is from the Hollow Crown. I thought Richard II was incredible, really complex and poetic and fascinating, while my main memory of the Henries is Tom Hiddleston. Which is not a BAD memory, but doesn't say much about the actual play. I find Falstaff annoying, but still felt sorry for him at the end of Henry IV part 2 (I think) when Mr Hiddleston - I mean the newly crowned King Henry - decides he's far too busy and important (even if he IS the King) to acknowledge his old friends.
ReplyDeleteI didn't watch Part 2, partly because I didn't have time, and partly because OMG I HATED THAT PLAY! I dunno, I feel weird about Falstaff and Henry... I mostly feel like Henry should never have been hanging out with him, but I guess I also feel like he shouldn't be a shitty friend when he has been hanging out with him... I dunno. The Hollow Crown is really good though! I'm a fan.
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